I have had MANY people call me a servant of Satan and condemn me to Hell for rejecting Darby’s delusions and teaching against the idea of a rapture that removes the Church before Antichrist’s ‘war on the Saints’. Anyone who says this passage from Mark isn’t describing our gathering together unto Christ is a false teacher, and is in danger of standing before God as one. Amen! 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. The fact the believer is now the elect of God is undeniable as you look through the verses in question. The Story Of Lot Is Not A Picture Of The Pre-Trib Rapture! To What Extent Should Christians Be ‘Torah Observant’? PART I, God Doesn’t Always Answer Our Prayers: What the Scriptures Say About Unanswered Prayer. It left no doubt in my mind those in Christ are the elect of God; and Matthew 24:30-31 is our resurrection/catching away! He in us, us in him; making us the elect. Believing And Teaching The Pre-trib Rapture Doctrine Is Direct Disobedience To The Word Of God! As for the armies in white coming out of Heaven with our Christ please consider this article: https://pbenson.me/2016/05/20/who-are-the-armies-of-heaven/, I guess we have to ignore that pesky little book of 1 Peter, where he calls all Christians “THE ELECT”. The Danger And Damage: Why The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Myth Needs ‘LEFT BEHIND’! The Word of God clearly teaches we the followers of Christ are ‘the elect’ of God; and therefor we are the ones being gathered unto Christ in Matthew 30:31. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. There is not a rapture, there is the resurrection. The Crumbling Pillars: Proving The Pre-Trib Rapture Theory Is False! Matthew 24:24, CSB: "For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:24-25 – King James Version (KJV) 24> For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. I have put together a video teaching series that clearly shows the events that transpire during the tribulation are NOT the wrath of God but are God calling the whole world (including his people) to repent and prepare for Christ’s Coming.. I’m just doing some research and wanted to hear your thoughts. I hope not; for that is a heretical teaching to deny his deity! Such as this one: Mar 13:24  But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,  To sum it up, saying the Body of Christ is not God’s ‘elect’ is quite clearly a lie against the multiple witnesses we have in the N.T. I find it strange the way those under the pre-trib delusion ignore or attempt to explain away the many conundrums that theory causes. Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. Why not remove that blemish now so God is not forced to? Baxter said that ‘elect’ in Matthew and the other Gospels was the same ‘elect’ as Romans 8:33. Answering A VERY Misleading Question: Who Will Populate The Millennium? by Tricia Tillin. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The Pre-Trib Rapture: A House Without A Foundation! No surprise that pre-tribbers always quote Matthew here and not Mark as you will see in my next point. The same group to which he gave the Great Commission; should we disregard those words also? Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Paul Benson. Baxter says Matthew 24:24 is a warning to the Church not to be deceived by false rumors of Christ’s return. Hi Jen jen; A lot of plagues and woes occur BEFORE the vials of judgement, and this is all BEFORE the two witnesses show up. Hi Holly; King James Version (KJV) Public Domain . I an pleased to announce that my books are now available for no charge in 3 e-book formats: PDF, E-Pub, and Kindle/AZW3. Changing The Truth Into A Lie: Apostasy Means Rapture? Does that mean the Ten Commandments don’t apply to the rest of us? The false teaching of the 7 years and the rapture are taught as one theory or doctrine. It’s only ‘clear’ if you under the delusional thinking brought about by being indoctrinated with the false notions of Dispensational Theology. What Does The Bible REALLY Teach On Giving Under The New Covenant? You have been indoctrinated into an erroneous theology that contradicts the Scriptures on MANY fronts! It does make a difference when we pray! Thanks for explaining, His elect, I like the way you talk. So yes, Israel is the elect of God, and Matt 24 and its context is speaking of them here. View all posts by Paul Benson. AMEN! Question: "Can the elect be deceived (Matthew 24:24)?" DOWNLOAD PAGE, My Website is at www.paulbenson.me. 24:15-21.Since Matt. The sequence for when the rapture takes place is essential for us to get a desperation for Jesus now. Hi Dave; Are There Corrupting Changes In The New Bible Versions? This is an unbiblical notion. Discerning The False Vision of the ‘New Apostolic Reformation’ and their ‘Seven Mountains Mandate’. Cognitive Dissonance And The Pre-Trib Rapture Theory! It’s all about our identification with him. I agree with you. And any words that proceed out of his mouth are the very Word of God. This verse told us a principle to tell apart false Christs: False Christs and false prophets mainly rely on imitating God’s work, that is, performing signs and wonders to deceive us. In 2 Thes. They would know He was returning because they, the Church, would see him coming in the sky. If you have embraced the error of the pre-trib rapture theory you have allowed yourself to be defiled by a lie; and the Holy Spirit is speaking to you now. Bible Gateway Recommends. A covenant is only binding as both parties of that Covenant abide by the terms of that Covenant. The Prosperity of America versus The Judgment of America: (Is Mark ‘The Firefighter’ Taylor Really Hearing From God? P.S. Also, in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, I’ve heard the wicked one can not be revealed until the church is removed. Does Your Eschatology Jive With The Parable Of The Wheat And The Tares? To ‘prove’ their point they will quote a couple of Old Testament verses that call Israel Gods ‘elect’, (and they were at that time!) https://pbenson.me/2016/06/23/the-dangers-of-defining-god/. Thanks for the comment. It is used often of people doing the choosing, as in Lot ‘choosing’ the plain country around Sodom (Gen. 13:11), or Moses choosing some to help lead Israel (Ex. Paul Benson. “The Jews seek a sign, and the Greeks seek wisdom, but we seek Christ Himself who was crucified.” Jesus said, “This is eternal life; knowing the one true God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent.” Revelation says, “The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” I could be wrong, just like any other believer, but it appears that the post-trib people are practicing Satan’s work by being “accusers of the brethren.” They think they have ALL truth and everyone else is damned. My friends all use the theory that since the church is no longer mentioned after the first three chapters of revelation..then it must be gone already! • The elect can refer to the people of Israel (Matthew 24:24; Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:22; Mark 13:27; Luke 18:17). It is clear in the Old Testament that Israel broke the Covenant with our God. A thorough look at all these passages shows NOT ONE reference to national Israel NOW being the elect. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Do YOU Understand Repentance The Way The Bible Teaches It? Hi Kevin; This false teaching has so many looking for something that is not coming and is not going to be prepared for what is coming, that is why I said what I did my main reference was pre, mid and post with the 7 years are from Satan, not scripture. -Charles Spurgeon. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Secondly, you make the presumption that the time of tribulation is the ‘Wrath of God’. I am sorry my comment was taken the wrong way. When the Resurrection of the Just occurs believers will be gathered from both the earth (the living) and from Heaven (the departed). We should base our beliefs on end-time doctrine only upon what is clearly andplainly stated in the teachings of Chirst and his apostles and then carefully (and prayerfully) add into the mix the allagories given elsewhere. Those who believe that they will be safe from the Great Tribulation will not be ready because they believed a great big lie. Matthew 24:24 in all English translations. Read the Bible, and esteem what you read up and above the teachings of man and you will know the truth. The Day The Believers Stand Before The Judgment Seat of Christ – When And Where? 3 if you have eyes to see. 1Co 15:23  But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. Paul Benson video, Eschatological Accountability (Paul Benson video), The Day Jesus Returns – Robert Adams Video, Why I Don’t Accept The ‘Pre-wrath Rapture’ View, The Church WILL face Antichrist! We need them to teach us. A. Blessings; Quite clear. Who Are The Elect Of God Today? Bill Lee-Warner. “24:9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake”. I know it isn’t completely chronological but some of it is, right? Hi Michael; on StudyLight.org Read Zech. Contemplative Prayer PART II: Returning To The Biblical Pattern. Paul Benson 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of Heaven to the other. I agree. Jesus is here to begin his Millennial Reign. Or do they spend eternity as disembodied spirits? PART 3: Two Comings Of Christ In The Last-Days? Matthew 24:24 NASB1995 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! The Fig Tree Parable Is NOT About Israel’s Rebirth! Hi Eden; We are saved through much tribulation, not from. another segment of God’s elect are left on earth to miss out on their marriage. ( Log Out /  One of the warnings Christ gives is this: “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect” (verse 24). The word “elect” is also the same as “chosen” in the New Testament appearing 24 times in 23 verses and most references are made concerning the church, those justified by faith in Jesus, being the chosen. and then some will go to Romans and twist a passage to try to garner a New Testament confirmation. I think we need to be very careful in our efforts to (with a finite mind) fully define the nature, character, and even the callings of our God. How Many Raptures? The Bible clearly states this event WILL happen. (And additionally there is nowhere the Church is described as being taken to Heaven in a ‘Rapture’.) The way I have seen and heard the rapture theory taught, we will meet Jesus in the air and we are carried to heaven and more. Answering ’16 Proofs of a Pre-trib Rapture’. Much discussion takes place over the issue of who the ‘elect’ are in Matthew 24. The elect will not be deceived because it is not possible. I was NOT endorsing that notion at all. Either post- or pre-, we are still “those who love His appearing.” Or, do you? Meaning he didn’t go into his home and everything else was destroyed and burned around him . ‘The Pre-Trib Rapture: A Bucket Full of Holes!’, https://pbenson.me/2016/10/31/the-elect-of-god-today/, https://pbenson.me/category/rebuking-disepnsationalism/, https://pbenson.me/2016/06/23/the-dangers-of-defining-god/, https://pbenson.me/2017/08/15/bible-proof-the-church-is-not-missing-from-earth-after-revelation-41/. Several points here to consider. You can also download them to your computer, phone, or tablet. Thanks for the comment. Matthew 24:24. Personal updates from Samantha. No Rapture Before The Signs In The Heavens Transpire! There is no trip off to Heaven at that time. This was the second time Jesus said this and the first time he cried, Luke 19:41-44. What made this teaching session of Christ any different from all his others? 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of Heaven. The Church will go through the time of tribulation, face Antichrist and the mark of the beast, and then be resurrected and caught up to meet Jesus at his Second Coming when he comes bringing the Wrath of God upon the Wicked. • The elect can refer to Jesus Christ (1 Peter 2:6). Matthew 24:25. Romans 11:5, Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 2 Peter 1:10. The books are as follows: If any feel led to contribute there is a Donate button on the Home page and also the Download page. We’ll leave it at that. The Darkness Before the Dawn: Before Christ Comes Antichrist! You will frequently hear nonsense like: Jesus was speaking here only to the Jews, and these words do not apply to us the Church. Of course he was addressing the Jews, he did so all the time. Mark ends his record of the Olivet discourse with Jesus saying, “what I say unto you I say unto all…” (Mark 13:37). 24-25 was written primarily to Israel, it’s likely the elect He referred to are Jewish believers who come to faith after the rapture of the Church. The word elect is used 16 times in the N.T. The elect can be the pretrib raptured elect in heaven AND the saved people on earth at the tribulation. The important thing should not be who is squabbling the most over the issue and exhibiting bad behavior; but who is in line with the truth of God’s Word? Paul Benson. In Matthew 24:21,22 Jesus says of it: "Then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. It is also tied to putting the 70th week of Daniel 9 at the end of time therefore, comes Pre-Trib., Mid-Trib., or Post-Trib. The post-trib people are always those who appear self righteous and judgemental and like they are the only ones who have the whole truth. the New Covenant is based on God’s promises to ALL of us. Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. That theological system (a creation of man and NOT from God) forces you to turn a blind eye to the truths we receive from passages like Romans 11 that ‘clearly’ teach that National Israel (except for the Jews who turn to faith in Jesus) was CUT OFF from her status as God’s elect by her unbelief. Matthew 24:23. To say we as Christians are NOT the elect of God is another falsehood they push to keep these Scriptures from exposing their error. 2Th 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Paul taught that the coming of our Lord and our gathering together unto him SHALL NOT COME until the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. I think you would find we are on the same page as to just who is the ‘elect of God’ in the last-days prophecies. Since Matt. "24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." The reason why there is tribulation is wrong is: God won’t let his people enter into the time of wrath. The Church, The Tribulation, and The Great Falling Away – Zac Poonen, David Wilkerson – The Apostasy Of The Last-Days. If you are still up in the air on this I suggest you take time to study this out completely; reading each verse that uses these terms in its context. I find your comment a bit troubling. It’s stated pretty plainly. Jesus was tempted by Satan himself, and only he could be perfect, but he himself also said, "Why do you call me good? PLEASE read my articles on that issue. You have (as I once was) been taught a theology of man that did NOT originate with the teachings of Christ and his Apostles and is NOT presented to us in the Word of God. False Teaching And False Prophesy Can GREATLY Strengthen Today’s Christian! Why God Destroyed The World In The Days Of Noah (And Will Do So Again In These Last Days)! etc.) -Part 2, Why I Believe What I Do About The Return Of Christ And The Catching Away Of The Church. Zec 14:16  And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. Paul Benson - Matthew 24:24 Now if they were all perfected and glorified, how would they be deceived? It was not a reference to a chronological timetable or a ‘dispensation’. You are so right! King James Version Update. And those of you rapture theorists who try to twist verse 28 and say, “See they are Gods elect it says so right here.” I suggest you back up to verse 7 and read it all in context for a change. Here is an article where I show the Church absolutely is on Earth after Revelation 4:1 For example: According to your take on the matter: part of the Body of Christ (AKA the Elect) gets raptured away to Heaven prior to the tribulation to be a part of the marriage and supper; BUT…. May God bless you. I made comment on this very issue in the article that will post tomorrow. If read in context and honest consideration the words of Christ in Matthew 24 present a very clear picture of the ‘catching away’ of the believers at the Second Coming of Christ after the great tribulation. The Pre-Trib Rapture: A House Without A Foundation! Blessings to you; Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Blessings; Read full chapter. Paul Benson. While there be some that would state that it is the Jews that are the “ELECT” in the Matt 24, and ONLY the Jews, the fact is, that both the Jews, AND church age saints are the “elect”. Jump to: Bible Study Tools ; Parallel Bible Verse; Bible Cross-References; Gill's Bible Notes; Barnes' Bible Notes; Bible Study Resources. I would be interested in your response. Here is a link to the 3rd video that specifically deals with the timing of the out-pouring of the Wrath of God in the last days: Thanks for the visit to the site and taking time to comment; All three, pre, mid and post is tied to the false teaching of the 7 year last week. It’s become so clear, I by reading unto it, no more confusion that we are the elect because we are in Christ Jesus. Nowhere does the Bible describe the events of the time of tribulation as the wrath of God; it is a world-wide ‘last call’ for mankind to repent. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. when the Ten Commandments were given to Moses on Stone, Moses was working with the nation of Israel. Truth sanctifies, but error defiles. Cotton Candy Prophets and the Road To Rome, Discerning Deceivers: 12 Biblical Keys To Recognizing False Prophets and Teachers. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Thanks for the comment; The fact is that the Bible DOES teach the catching-away of the Church to meet Jesus in the air AT THE SECOND COMING! Thank you for your encouragement and truth. 2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. There is no other way to properly comprehend this passage. 4 till Rev. 2:1-3 carefully you will see that it actually does NOT say the Antichrist cannot be revealed until the Church leaves. Rapture theory teachers denying Matthew 24 is for us is truly a theft in progress. BLIND GUIDES! What does it matter if your trust and hope is in Jesus? Mar 13:27  And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. Mebs. Mar 13:25  And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. Very clear. Jesus was always teaching the Jews; it was to them he was sent. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Why I Believe Christians Should STOP Using The Name ‘Rapture’! The best way to view our articles and Q&A. The problem you have is that you have been incorrectly taught that the Wrath of God is poured out in the final years BEFORE the Return of Christ to this planet. Hi Bryan; Could You Show Me THAT Verse, Please? By Rev. Matthew 24:30-31. P.S. The True Biblical Timing Of The Rapture (video teaching), Who Are The Armies Of Heaven With Jesus In Revelation 19:14? My blog 'Let's Get It Right!' The Biblical Timing Of The Rapture PART II: The Resurrection Chapter! The problem is that folks who have been indoctrinated into a false eschatology are programmed to ignore or misinterpret these many passages. We think of all the twelve Apostles Jesus said this to, but it was only Peter, James, John and Andrew, Mark 13: 3. Paul Benson Is The Great Tribulation God’s Wrath? A Secret Coming Of Christ? Leaving Behind The Cross of Christ – The Folly Of ‘Modern’ Christian Ministry! Paul Benson. The Exodus Is NOT A Picture Of The Pre-Trib Rapture! The pre-trib people never condemn the post-trib people. A Deceiving Distraction: Who Is The Restrainer Of 2Thessalonians 2:7? Who Are The Armies Of Heaven With Jesus At His Return. Hello Shalom; Repentance, Salvation and The New Bible Versions: (Yes, it Really does matter!). This must be a twofold prophecy for those to get out of Jerusalem and for those at his second coming.