We will explain the exact differences between Naniwa and Shapton. Comes with Dressing Stone #600 for flattening on the purpose of correction. Dual 200/325 DMT Shapton Pro 1000 Shapton Pro 5000 Shapton Pro 8000 Shapton Pro 12000 at some stage in the future, I'll look at a finer finishing stone. When it comes to Japanese sharpening stones, two brands are at the top of the game: Naniwa and Shapton. Shapton Pro Kuromaku Sharpening Stones: 120 - 30000 Grit for Apex Edge Pro. The photo shows the stones arranged by grit from 400 on the left to 10,000 on the right. $132.00. NANIWA/ Lobster is top brand of Japanese sharpening stone. These are splash and go and good for steels including hard ones. Thank you for all the support and information! I can give you some info but keep in mind that most of what I'll say regrarding shaptons is 2nd hand. Relative to other lines, I felt like the Chosera ran finer than their grit rating. by Kit Craft » Mon May 21, 2018 7:51 pm, Post POWERTEC 71013 Sharpening Stone Holder, 5-1/2-Inch to 9-Inch $38.59. You will appreciate the extra speed just having one stone. Naniwa Professional Chosera 3,000 Grit . I most often use the 400, 1000, 5000 and these three would be considered a complete set: low, mid & fine. ). Discussion in 'Maintenance, Tinkering & Embellishment' started by dizL, Mar 25, 2018. I have Chosera 800 and 3000. Naniwa Chosera 800 Grit Stone - with Base. I've used the Chosera 400, 600, 1000 & 3000. In the end you may have to try the options and see what works best for you. Between the two Shaptons I have a Naniwa/Chosera 800 and an unknown brand one but probably 1500-2000 grit. The 10k stone is 1 1/4" (30mm) thick. The kit includes three sharpening stones with varying grits – 500 for dull blades, 2000 to refine edges, and 30,000 for sharp finishing touches. They seem very similar in many respects but, there definitely are some differences. ... Naniwa Chosera 800 Grit Stone - with Base. An 800 will reach farther back than a 1000, but not as far forward. by old onion » Wed May 23, 2018 2:07 am, Post Post The chosera is finer than 1000 something like 1500. by Kit Craft » Tue May 22, 2018 8:20 am, Post The Chosera stones come in six grits: 400,1000,2000, 3000,5000, and 10K. I think I will be going with the chosera 800, its only $63 on amazon, and I will get a 3k sometime in the future (then something in the 200-400) and eventually a ~6k or SW. Actually, if I go that route I’d have to get a stone holder :/. Naniwa Chosera, Super and Work stones have been replaced by the new and improved Professional, Speciality and Combination stones. by Lepus » Tue May 22, 2018 12:11 pm, Post IIRC, the 800 cut like a 1k stone for me. 1000 Medium Grit - Blue An excellent follow up to a 220 or 400 stone or as a starting stone for not very dull edges. So the 400 grit stone is light green, the 600 grit is blue, the 800 grit is red, the 1000 grit is bright green, the 2000 grit is mustard yellow, the 3000 grit is pink, the 5000 grit is gray, and the 10,000 grit is light blue. ↳   Chefknivestogo Frequently Asked Questions, ↳   Knife Knowledge, Skills, Technique and Care, ↳   Greatest Hits - Selected wisdom from past and present forumites, ↳   Ray Masters - Knife Life apparel and accessories, ↳   Traditional Sharpening - Jason Bosman, ↳   "Tim Johnson Knives" Handcrafted in Oxford, MA, help me choose (chosra 800 or 1000) so I can stop thinking about it, Re: help me choose (chosra 800 or 1000) so I can stop thinking about it, Precise Sharpening on CKTG forums in Sharpener's corner, https://www.chefknivestogo.com/ch800grstba.html. What is SW? And now we can get to the difference between the Chosera 800 and 1000. A. NANIWA CHOSERA Japanese Super Ceramics Whetstone SS-1000/#1000, with Plastic Holder & Dressing Stone #600, which is the highest grade and most selling Naniwa's Whetstone for Professional use. Naniwa Professional Chosera 400 Grit . The Glass Stone Seven Knife Sharpening Kit by Shapton makes it easy and convenient to keep your most used blades sharp throughout the year. $274.50. The Naniwa Pro 800 gives about the same aggressiveness and polish as many other 1k stones. All the stones from … I also bought the 400, 800, 3k, and 8k SW.I really like the 800 and 3k. by gladius » Mon May 21, 2018 5:38 pm, Post $81.00. I will add a finishing stone 3-5k sometime later in the future, but want something to learn how to sharpen and last me a while! 1k Chosera 5k Shapton Pro 8k Shapton Pro 10k Super Stone I chose the set up that way based on how I liked the feel of the available stones at each level. This stone cuts like a 1000 -1200 stone, not sure why the 800 label, but Chosera is famous for under-rating their stones in grit. by Kit Craft » Tue May 22, 2018 1:53 am, Post 8 1/4" x 2 3/4" (210 mm x 70 mm) and 1" (25 mm) thick. This handle set can follow the 400/600 grit diamond stones of the basic kit, though I prefer it after the 800/1000 handle set. by slickmamba » Mon May 21, 2018 5:06 pm, Post I have a 400, 800, 1000, 2000, 4000 (Lobster), 5000, 8000 Snow White (SW). by gladius » Tue May 22, 2018 12:06 am, Post 1 product rating - NANIWA CHOSERA Super Ceramics Stone SS-1000 w/Holder & Dressing Stone Brand NEW. by slickmamba » Wed May 23, 2018 2:34 am. No, the Choceras aren't "overkill" for a home user so long as you plan to learn to use them. A truly fantastic stone. C $31.37 ... Naniwa Chosera 10000 Grit Narrow Stone for Apex Edge Pro Sharpening Systems. I haven't had to really reestablish and edge on my CPM steel knives. Naniwa Chosera, Super and Work stones have been replaced by the new and improved Professional, Speciality and Combination stones. I like the 800 over the 1k because it is more aggressive in feel and cutting power and I like that in stones. copyright=new Date(); but could a 120/220 diamond stone be used for heavy work then switch to something like the chosera 400. Ships from and sold by Amazon AU. I have also always read and believe that the Gesshin wears fast, which considering the size of such stones and frequency of sharpening for a home cook is not the end of the world, but it does mean you would need a flattening plate in a short time frame. In stock. FREE Shipping by Amazon. The #800 Chosera Is still technically a coarse stone, but when used with some mud, it leaves a very good, basic working edge. I like the Shapton glass grit range a little better then the pro but I'm a bit confused what the difference is between the Glass and Pro as well as the naniwa super stones and the chosera stones. https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-has-a-zero-tolerance-policy-towards-threats-of-violence-extremism-be-warned.1769537/, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-k...892566?hash=item33d101ddd6:g:7koAAOSwOMdZRhB4, https://sharpeningstones.ru/cat/точильные-камни-для-apex/россия/gritalon, https://bladeforums.com/threads/gritalon-silicon-carbide-and-aluminum-oxide-stones-review.1563787/, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. by slickmamba » Wed May 23, 2018 2:33 am, Post . The shapton is right around 2000. The stones of other grit grades are similar enough in practical use for these suggestions to be applied to any other Shapton stone. All the stones, even the coarser grits perform very fast and are noticeably harder than other stones on the market. I'm going to get the following. 120-, 1000- and 2000-grit stones with and without their boxes. There is no one right or wrong kind of stone what it really boils down to is what stones work best for the steel your sharpening,if it were me I wouldn't bother with the boride stones they are more money then they are worth if you asking me. You can certainly spend less and get the job done but they're a lot of fun to use. C $55.69. it finishes much nicer than what i would expect from a 400, but is good enough to set a bevel and even thin a little if needed. That jump from a 1000 grit stone would be more difficult, though again occasionally managable. Naniwa Professional Chosera 800 Grit. And how can I find your review on the grotilons? by ken123 » Mon May 21, 2018 9:57 pm, Post Naniwa vs Shapton. $85.00. Order it now. Naniwa Professional Chosera 1,000 Grit . The #1,000 Chosera is one of the best stones in the series, and is aggressive enough for most maintenance while leaving … The only shapton I've used is a very low (120) grit one. Ok, that does make a lot of sense. C $38.41 + C $5.11 shipping . 4.9 out of 5 stars 313. On the kit I'm looking at it comes with a set of boride stones so I'll have them one way or another. Buy It Now +$5.00 shipping. Wider range of products cover everyone's needs. Naniwa Chosera Stones 400, 600, 800, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000,10000 Apex Edge pro. Shapton GlassStone 3-Piece Sharpening Stone Set: 320, 1000, 4000, Free Guide Clip As far as I can tell, the Shapton Pro = Kuromaku stone depending on region, and the Naniwa Pro is the renamed/replacement Chosera. Jumping right to a 6000 grit stone or what have you after a 2000 is managable on most steels. Please see this thread here in Tech Support: Chosera stones would the 400 be enough to do heavy profiling or fixing within a timely manner or would I need to find a lower grit stone? A Chosera set can even go a bit higher because the Snow White follows the Chosera 3000 so well. The 800 is the hidden gem of the Chocera line. $88.00. I'd recommend the 1k, it spans the ranges better IMO. $88.00. They provide an excellent, smooth feel while working and deliver a fantastic edge. ... Naniwa Traditional Stone 1,000. $100.88. Price advantage because of direct import! If God wanted me to be a vegetarian he wouldn't have made animals taste so good. But the speed makes a difference when you progress from coarse stones. The default around here for a while has been Chosera 400/800-1000/3000/Snow White 8000, which I have, and it is a good set largely because stopping at the … Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 29. This text is a translation of the manufacturer’s directions for using the 12000-grit Shapton sharpening stone. by slickmamba » Mon May 21, 2018 4:23 pm, Post The Naniwa Chosera 800 whetstone uses magnesia as binder for the abrasive, in this case white aluminium oxide. $81.00. The Naniwa Professional Stone 400, 1000 and 5000. We carry the baseless version so the stone can be used on both ... Naniwa Professional Chosera 800 Grit. My favorite of the two Shaptons is definitely the 500, which could probably be rated higher. by slickmamba » Tue May 22, 2018 4:59 pm, Post Click to zoom. These are big thick stones which will last a long, long time. SW is Snow white (Junpaku). It is a real workhorse. I must warn you how ever that they tend to be softer than the other Shapton Glass stones. update=copyright.getFullYear(); And I know the general rule is to not mix diamond and whetstone or is that not good? Very popular choice as a workhorse stone. Think of the 1k as a fast 1k producing a finer finish (~1200 - 1500) good for a one stone solution starter stone to build a set around. by Jeff B » Mon May 21, 2018 9:29 pm, Post Shapton glass stones for guided sharpeners can be had down to 120. In operation since 1998, BladeForums.com has led the industry since Day 1. Only 3 left in stock - order soon. If your just getting one stone make it the 800. 2000 Fine Grit - … Depending on how much I like the Shaptons, I can get a 30000 or go the route of something like a JNAT. Advantages of the Naniwa ‘Chosera’ round series : Minimal moisture absorption: After wetting the stone you can directly start the … The shapton is pure splash and go. It would probably lead to a four stone set that covers the range from very coarse to very fine evenly; 220/600-800/2000/6000-8000. 00. by old onion » Mon May 21, 2018 4:34 pm, Post The Shaptons on amazon.com I can get the 1500 (I've read it's comparable to the Naniwa 1000) and 5000 for $93 USD = $117 CAD. Overall they're my favorite synthetic stones. ... Naniwa Chosera 10000 / Shapton Pro 30000 Stones Pack for Wicked Edge Sharpening. Brand New. Naniwa Professional Chosera 1,000 Grit . It isn't perhaps where I would go, but I think it could definitely work. 800 Medium Coarse Grit - Peach - NEW! The hardness is just right, and the feedback is perfect. But I like an edge with some bite and I also do not use a lot of complex steel to begin with. If you have questions about sharpening products, steels or techniques post them here. Ok, Shapton won out. User instructions. I'm going to the States in a couple weeks so I could get it shipped there and pick it up. Naniwa Professional Stone 600 Naniwa Professional Stone 800 Naniwa Professional Stone 1000 If sharpening stones were knives, a 1000 grit would be a chef’s knife; it’s used for almost everything. BladeForums has ZERO TOLERANCE for extremism or calls of violence. ... 7 product ratings - Naniwa Chosera 800 Grit Stone - with Base SS-800. I've been there done that and I went with the Cho 800 because that is what everybody liked as well,in fact,most like the 400,800 and the 3000 grit choseras as a great one,two three punch.I agree after using mine for awhile. $29.95. Thank you, I've been recommended just getting a medium grit for now to practice on, as it will give me a decent edge, and getting a finishing stone later on in my sharpening journey. Free shipping . Click on the banner above for the new stones. The chosera stones or diamond or....? That sounds like a great setup, I am a little low on funds so will just get 1 stone for now. Yes. $85.00. Naniwa Professional Chosera 2,000 Grit . Board Magic Powered by Solidjeuh. I have no first hand experience with the sharpener you mentioned and have no experience with the softer stones you mentioned ( I have used, and found extremely adequate, Norton water stones before going to other stones for the higher alloy steels). We request your assistance dealing with this as we do not want to see the site shut down due to violent threats. Ships from and sold by Amazon US. Naniwa Professional Chosera 600 Grit. by cedarhouse » Mon May 21, 2018 11:29 pm, Post I don't find the jump from the 800 to the 3k to be an issue and in fact I have gone from 800 to 8k without issue too. They both have very good feel. I find them to be too soft. Yes, I have seen the Shapton glass at 220, 320, 500, 1000 and the shapton pro at 120, 220, 320, 1000. The Chosera stones are among the finest synthetic waterstones available. Click on the banner above for the new stones. Based on longterm experience and reputations, we specialize in abrasive media, stone processing tools, sandblasting systems and diamond tools. Anywy i love the shapton pro 2000 and very … $74.00 $ 74. In stock on December 31, 2020. i really love my chosera 800, it is part of my main 400/800/3000 progression i use for most of my knives, but if i could only have one to pair with a coticule, it would be a chosera 400. i cant express how much i love that stone. Chosera Sharpening Stones are considered the best commercial stones on the market today. The cho is more immediate but sometimes I feel its feedback is more of a smooth glide and can be misleading, okay I’m rambling. Suitable for long knives because of the stone’s round shape and large surface. A stone for when you need something a bit coarser than 1000, but don't want to remove too much. To circle back around since no one has mentioned it, the Gesshin 2000 or another fast 2000 grit would give you access to higher polish finishing stones easily. $73.00. This item: Shapton Glass Stone 1000 Grit 5mm $115.86. by slickmamba » Mon May 21, 2018 5:23 pm, Post document.write("Copyright\u0020\u0026copy\u003B 2017 - "+ update + " Chefknivestogo Forums"); Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. The Naniwa Chosera 1000 whetstone uses magnesia as binder for the abrasive, in this case white aluminium oxide. Naniwa large round sharpening stone grit 1000. No experience with the 1k but thought about adding it later on just for grins. Each stone is … The 800 is slightly faster than a 1000, but not significantly faster than a 1000 when it comes to ordinary first stage sharpening. I'm not sure how well those carbide crystals sharpen, even if using diamonds. If you look at the grit chart the Chocera 800 is. Then, the stone cuts fast and the edge is clean. by Jeff B » Tue May 22, 2018 4:10 pm, Post The cho benefit from leaving some water on it before starting. I have been scouring the forums for a while now and can't make a choice between the chosera 800 or 1000 as my first/only stone. Naniwa makes the popular Chosera and Super stones as well as many other sharpening prod. Both Cho and Shapton are VERY hard very dish resistant stones. Buy It Now. by gladius » Tue May 22, 2018 7:48 am, Post OF course some of the carbides are harder than the stones but I'm not sure how much it affects things. Also you said the Shaptons are on the softer side but what are you comparing that to? by Gunnergoose » Mon May 21, 2018 5:14 pm, Post $68.00. This Chosera does everything well - whether kitchen or pocket knives, chisels or plane irons, etc.