Frieza may seem to have a golden opportunity, but don’t be deceived, as Megatron can transform this match into a victory with his cyber-ton of tricks. Whoever has the definitive lead with regards to destructive capability will depend on what you’re willing to accept, so this is a toss-up. For Uni+, it’s from scaling to Nova Prime. While unity was widespread throughout Cybertron thanks to the efforts of these Primes, one of them - Megatronus, guardian of entropy - betrayed his brothers to seek out more power for himself. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Frieza’s attempts to obtain immortality saw him clash against heroes from Earth that stood in opposition to his evil. Additionally even if Freeza got side swiped, He’s got some pretty bizarre survivability(he survived cut in half, with most of his head missing, and while in pieces). There’s plenty of interstellar travel feats in Transformers, but the fastest one is Optimus clearing the Hate Plague with a blast from the Matrix, which gets 24 quadrillion c. People say that characters scale because Starscream reacted to it. Định vị trên thị trường bất động sản bằng 5 dòng sản phẩm chiến lược Lastly, there’s speed. I’m here to write out a verdict about this wonderful matchup of tyrants: I’ll try to keep this as short as I can due to how busy IRL I am. Both can also survive in space,so destroying the planet does not matter. Again, there’s plenty of arguments you could make against both here (the shockwaves got stronger as they went on so they don’t scale, reality warping doesn’t scale to physicals, it’s outliers for Transformers characters, etc. Broly (ブロリー, Burorī?, lit. Jokes aside, Death Saucer is just as deadly as the move it’s based on. However, constantly making Megatron explode will force the Decepticon leader to lose concentration and cause the antimatter to become lethal for him. Megatron was capable of repairing half his body by his lonesome while, missing an arm and his legs before taking on entire squads of other Transformers. How much can these two dish out and take in response. Even as the battles between the Autobots and the Decepticons raged on past Cybertron’s borders, going so far as to take their war to Earth, Megatron’s willingness to accomplish his goals by whatever means necessary have made him a fearsome foe who will stop at nothing to ensure his enemies are vanquished and his Decepticons reign supreme. In terms of versatility, I’d say both are roughly even. Something something 100 gees of acceleration to get to Namek. , the strongest material in the multiverse, the resulting explosion powerful enough to change the scenery of the World of Void, Survived an hour long beatdown from Super Saiyan Broly, Led the Decepticons in the Cybertronian Civil War for over 4 million years, Slaughtered the Decepticon Justice Division, Ended up joining the Autobots in the IDW continuity, Used an Omniglobe to command thousands of battlefields at once. Why is this important? Weapons aren’t the only things that Energon can create. I watched a lot of the shows, collected a lot of the toys, and watched all the movies(yes, all of them). As a result, their strength and durability are very comparable with each other’s. One the best songs in recent Dragon Ball history. Even a speed advantage, I’d argue, would not be enough for Frieza to compensate. (Have some Wrath of Cortex music, because I said so). Hm, I wonder, if you need to go with a low interpretation for one and a high interpretation for the other in order to make things close… I wonder if that says anything about which side has the stronger argument. Who emerges victorious in this category? Accidentally created sentient electricity that talks like a Pokémon and makes lightsaber noises when it moves, Dealt damage to Regenesis Shockwave, who was collapsing the main universe and had absorbed the Dead Universe, Powerful enough to match and even kill Optimus Prime, Comparable to Optimus Prime, who lifted and threw a large oil tanker, Fusion Cannon shots can stagger Devastator, Blew apart the Deceptigod, the avatar of the D-Void and the entire Dead Universe, His antimatter threatened to destroy half a planet upon destabilising, Should scale to Brawn, who threw the Heart of Cybertron more than 2,000 miles, Should scale to Devastator, who destroyed a drill that would’ve drilled into the Earth’s core and destroyed the planet, Shot energy blasts powerful enough to defeat Omega Supreme, Should be comparable to Tracks, who stopped a train going “100 mph too fast”, Far above his weaker Decepticons troops, who were able to destroy Ultra Magnus, Consistently capable of flying across planets, whether in robot mode or in jet form, Fusion Cannon can move as fast as other blasters capable of reaching Earth’s orbit from ground level, Comparable to Starscream, who reached Cybertron from Earth in just a few hours. This also further helps to counter any sort of speed advantage, as Frieza can’t get close without risk of getting hit by the antimatter, just due to its sheer volume. I said I'd make you wish for death.". Hell, he can trap Megatron inside a psychic ball with the antimatter. But that’s not all. He’s also been overthrown as Decepticon commander several times in the comics, dude just can’t keep his position for long. Frost's characterization differs between the manga and anime adaptions of Dragon Ball Super , being a malevolent being not unlike Frieza in the anime, while on the other hand the manga version of the character is simply amoral and unsportsmanlike. Megatron is undeniably more experienced than Freeza. So with stats, Frieza holds a solid advantage in both categories, but they’re not exactly massive gaps. After getting revived by the Dragon Balls during the Resurrection F arc in both the move and the anime, Frieza appeared in the mortal realm as pieces rather than whole, and was still shown to be alive. In Megatron’s own weakness section within this blog, it’s written that his arrogance is his biggest weakness and had led to him dying once. routinely been left standing even after attacks that have blown him apart, and is capable of winning even after the fact against opponents who eclipse him in power. This one is surpignlsy tricky because of how broken Dragon Ball (and most of anime sometimes) can be a nightmare of scaling stats to the fighters. I will have to do it based on what I consider are outliers and what are reliable in the best way, like Goku’s Sayian God Universe Shockwave being an outlier since 1. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. just slightly wins out via his antimatter. Frieza is incredibly adept in hand-to-hand combat, being skilled enough to match fighters like Goku and Vegeta, despite them having far more combat training and experience than him, A technique Frieza uses in which he uses his tail to attack his opponents, usually whipping or constructing them. The Decepticon has a decent enough chance, but there’s no way he wins more times than not, even with all the scrutiny that’s been given to Freeza’s stats (and not Megatron’s). As primal as the ground we walk on and the air we breathe, anger can keep us alive or doom … So, what does a star, a nuclear fusion, Iron Man’s Blasters, and Ki have all in common? Can compare to characters who can perceive a blast from the Matrix, which traveled the universe to clear the Hate Plague in a short timeframe, Survived a blast that launched Cybertron out of orbit (, calculated by Death Battle to be 4.48 ninatons of TNT in a black box, ), which only left a few scratches in his armor, Tanked a blast that nearly caved in a mountain, Comparable to Optimus Prime, who survived a blast in Cybertron that could be seen from space, Survived the explosion of an Antimatter Energon cube that leveled a factory, Survived the destruction of the Crystal of Power, which had enough energy to destroy mountains, Comparable to Soundwave and Rumble, who survived several Energon cubes exploding in their faces, Survived the aforementioned oil tanker being thrown at him by Optimus, Walked off a blast which left a large hole in a steel wall, Tanked hits from Overlord, a being so powerful, it took the power of the Requiem Blaster to take him down, A shot from the Requiem Blaster left an enormous gash on Cybertron, vaporizing everything in its general direction, Tanked hits from a casual Megatronus, who’s powerful to effortlessly kill Predaking and stand his ground against Rodimus Cron, a Unicron-amped Hot Rod, Rodimus Cron was casually able to kill the Dinobot Sludge, as well as combiners like Menasor, Computron, Devastator, and Victorion. Besides Fusion, Was there Another Way That Broly Could Have Been Beaten In DBS? Maybe it’s not the best example out there, but my point is that perceiving the beam from a long distance is not enough to justify scaling to it. Additionally, Frieza does have some minor healing through transformation. So, it really just comes down to stats, but I think in any scenario where they’re at all similar in terms of physicality. So let’s get the obvious things out of the way before getting into the stats. As a result, he can just use his telekinesis to toss the antimatter out of the way or keep it away from him. And I just so happen to have little experience with either series…. However, what is known is that they’re a powerful alien race. scale to Shockwave’s low multiversal feat, but Freeza scales to his low multi feat more solidly and he upscales a damn good bit from it. After. Saga Brollyego (czytaj: Saga Broliego) –opiera się na wydarzeniach z filmu Dragon Ball Super: Brolly. That’s it for now. While Frieza has claimed he could have killed Goku in an instant if he actually knew what he was doing, and has knocked Goku out of his Blue form, it pales in comparison to how Megatron scales to his feats. Beerus scales to 3/4th the speed of Whis, who is casually 500 quadrillion c, so Beerus is casually 375 quadrillion c. Golden Freeza = Blue Goku = Casual Beerus. Golden Frieza's punches were able to dull Broly's movements a bit if landed properly, and if he were to throw blows Finally, Frieza throws the opponent off his horn down to the ground, - Frieza surrounds himself in a sphere of energy and rams himself into his enemy. Again, this is an extremely, EXTREMELY close fight, and Frieza could potentially win given the chance, but with Megatron’s ungodly ancient age, his utter domination of gods and godlike beings, and his outright reality warping antimatter capabilities, it’s the Decepticon that will take the crown here. Megatron can also let other people through the shields to trap them, preventing escape. In the Dragon Ball Super Broly light novel, it’s stated that his punches were capable of staggering Super Saiyan Broly. For one thing, they can’t automatically calculate a person’s true power level. They mainly subsist off Energon, a versatile energy source said to be the building blocks of their very bodies and Sparks and is more or less their own equivalent of food, electricity, blood, fuel, power, and in most cases, a currency for trading and ammunition for specific types of weapons. Lastly, Frieza’s race possesses the ability of transformations. So Freeza has a slight AP advantage and a big speed advantage. They are incredibly durable, to the point where even some of the strongest Transformers such as the DJD can’t break through them. This will be the deciding factor as all tyrants need to be wise in choosing their battles to always get the win. xDRAGON BALL SUPER: BROLY (ドラゴンボール超 ブロリー) BAPE X DRAGONBALL SUPER GOLDEN FRIEZA TEE 【Tシャツ】【ブラック】 【MEN'S】【新品】 BAPE(ベイプ) 素材 コットン100% カラー BLACK/ブラック 状態 新品 That was sarcasm, if it wasn’t obvious. You could argue in a scenario like it would kill both of them, but Megatron could just open a space bridge to avoid that outcome. Their colloquial name is a reference to their signature ability - one which allows them to scan nearly anything and transform into it. The best example would be Frieza being still alive after, getting sliced in half by one of his Death Saucers, during his battle with Goku in the Frieza Saga. That’s all from me folks, I really hope you enjoyed this verdict and the blog, and I would love to see this fight happen someday. Frieza has his variety of Ki and martial art techniques at his disposal while Megatron has his weapons. I’m not going to go into stats too much here because I presume the other verdicts will focus on it, but they have fairly similar arguments overall. There’s also a debate over how big the Dragon Ball universe actually is, but I’m not gonna get into that for the sake of brevity and time. - Frieza knees the opponent in their stomach and kicks them up into the air. He runs the risk of killing himself at this point, so this ability is only to be used in dire situations. Frieza can even extend his tail to a greater length if he wishes, - Frieza charges towards his opponent at high speed, then disappears from his opponent’s line of sight. Starscream didn’t even react to the attack. Ki, as shown many times in Dragon Ball, enhances physicality, and if the shockwaves are a result of their Ki, well, it’s logical that they can fight and react at those same speeds. His Ki barriers could potentially block the antimatter given how Megatron’s forcefield stopped the explosion, but Frieza essentially never uses Ki barriers in a fight and he wouldn’t know that they could block it in the first place. But most importantly, the Leader of the Decepticons is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more experienced than the Alien Tyrant (he’s older than Optimus Prime who’s over 9 million years old. - A massive explosion that surrounds Frieza, which, - In his second form, Frieza charges at the opponent to impale them in the chest with one of his horns. Add in the fact that Megatron’s antimatter has enough range to. Barring a few limitations, he is capable of granting a single wish to the person responsible for uniting them before the Dragon Balls are once again separated. Long story short for the winner of Stats, I am giving it a tie. After receiving a life-threatening beatdown from Optimus Prime, Megatron was summoned by the planet-eating monster, Unicron, who reformatted him and some of his troops into more powerful bodies. The vacuum of space, I think, will hardly be kind to creatures such as yourself, wouldn't you agree?”, Comparable in strength or potentially slightly stronger, depending on how Dragon Ball’s cosmology is interpreted, Ki barriers can protect him from deadly blows, Ryūsei Nakao, Christopher Ayres, & Daman Mills, Likely can’t resist Megatron’s antimatter, “I would happily wade across a river of corpses, chest-deep in rust and grease and engine oil, just to crush the spark of the last Autobot standing. “Earth has placed its final hope on you? Meanwhile, Megatron was a professional Gladiator prior to the war for many, many years. The black hole link’s power truly shines, though, in its space-time warping properties. He’s never portrayed as a being that Megatron can transform into by himself. There are a lot of many outcomes that could affect the winner, but this one to me was more clear to see thanks to She-Ra Vs. Wonder Woman showed me more factors to point out. While Cybertronians are capable of withstanding large amounts of damage directed at their body, they can only be considered truly dead if anything were to directly impact their Sparks or otherwise compromise their brain modules. One of Megatron’s most famous alternate modes, he becomes a handgun, which comes with a stock and a silencer. One of them is just too fast. Ben has expressed interest in this idea, but was curious if it would really be that fun if Frieza really wins as easily as it seemed back then. According to Speedy's calc, the distance from the Kai Realm to Earth is 1.72322388e27 meters, Beerus' planet is outright not anywhere viewable in the macrocosm, so i'll assume its from the edge for a lowball, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693556759079682188/728755381274148945/unknown.png. Condition is "Used". His tail regrew in his fourth form after it was cut off in his second form. And all of this is without mentioning stuff like Galvatron, or Super/Ultra Megatron. Class dismissed. Chief among his new creations were the first thirteen, meant to enforce Primus’s will against that of his nemesis - the Chaos Bringer, Unicron. Ki Sensing is the ability to sense the location, life force, and power level of anyone. Galvatron had been revived as Super Megatron. Ki is a tangible energy inside every living being, by drawing it out, a skilled individual is able to control it and use it for many different techniques or also use it to increase their strength and durability. We’re talking about a 6-4 matchup that can go either way, lads and ladettes; I’m personally of the opinion that the stat advantage Freezer has isn’t enough to clinch this, and with Megatron already holding more obvious leads over Frieza that he can feasibly take advantage of - like say using Frieza’s own arrogance against him, it should be enough to eke out more wins than not for him. And to see DB take notice of it and do it as a Community battle is actually kinda cool(even if the discussion itself was trash, but whatever). AP. Frieza finishes this move by knocking them down into the ground with a hook kick in their stomach, - Frieza delivers a powerful gut punch to his opponent. That’s right, it’s the evil emperor himself. In many G1 continuities, “Galvatron” has been portrayed as a form given to Megatron by separate entities such as Unicron or as a completely separate entity himself. In that case, Frieza blitzs regardless of ap. At one point, Megatron was cast adrift in transwarp, on the edge of oblivion. ), so I’ll just add in my thoughts based on everyone else's verdict. That’s not to say Frieza isn’t skilled, he’s utilised his tail for unexpected attacks before, and has kept up in combat with many hardened martial artists, but the main thing to point out is that he usually only manages to keep up due to his physical superiority. At the end of the fight, when Goku simply, pushes through one of Frieza’s largest hits and lands a devastating punch of his own, , Frieza is immediately overwhelmed, and is on his knees pretty much immediately. - A blast of energy Frieza charges and fires at his opponent, creating a massive explosion, - Frieza can manipulate his Ki to use telekinetic attacks. When you compare that to Freeza, who easily has planetary in just his FIRST form to potentially universal range, there’s not a lot of room to discuss who has the advantage here. Another issue is both will probably attempt to tank through a few attacks from one another. For the original incarnation of the character from another dimension, see Broly. It sounds like the anti-matter can be blocked with shields, which freeza can make. In the Dragon Ball Super Broly light novel, it’s stated that his punches were capable of staggering Super Saiyan Broly Should be far superior to Battle of Gods Goku, who, in his clash with Beerus, was threatening to destroy all of Universe 7 . Frieza’s golden form is the ultimate evolution of his race. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Much like we pointed out with Optimus’ Energon Axe, it’s worth mentioning that Megatron has only used this weapon in one episode of the G1 cartoon. If you’re going to use a combatant’s own weakness against them, then you should do the same thing with their opponent. It’s kind of reminiscent of the previous blog I worked on for. Up-close, Megatron likely has an advantage. Megatron, on the other hand, could at bare minimum scale to, . Dragon Ball Super: Broly (Japanese: ドラゴンボール 超 （ スーパー ） ブロリー, Hepburn: Doragon Bōru Sūpā: Burorī) is a 2018 Japanese anime martial arts fantasy/adventure film, directed by Tatsuya Nagamine and written by Dragon Ball series creator Akira Toriyama.. Frieza held his own thanks to his speed and ki verisitaity, but Megatron’s durability, weaponry, long experience, wise intelligence, and power of the Antimatter, made the emperor of Dragon Ball screaming. There’s no denying Megatron’s the more experienced fighter. Can shoot and crash into things. Not much is known about the origins of Frieza’s race as well as their home planet. So grave was Megatronus’s sin against Primus that his name was struck out of Cybertronian history, until a gladiator-turned-warlord assumed the moniker for his own as he looked to purge his homeworld of weakness: the Decepticon Supreme Commander, Megatron. Furthermore, scouters have a maximum limit at high of a power level they can measure before giving blank readings. While the gap in speed certainly won’t be easy to overcome I think with Megatron’s durability and just how fucking broken the Antimatter is. In 100 outcomes, this would most likely go 55/45. A dedicated team of nerds researching your favorite characters' weapons, armors and skills to see who would win in a fight. Initially, Frieza’s Golden form has been a problem for the character as it drained his stamina and energy. Now thankfully ol' Megs has one trick in his pocket that could very well be his key to victory here being his Antimatter Manipulation. He’s just as strong, if not stronger, has deadlier techniques and abilities, blitzes to shit, is roughly even in combat skill, and has better range. Anybody who could react that fast could easily become a world class boxer, it’s a big enough advantage to compensate for pretty much anything short of your opponent wearing a full plate of armour. The novel outright states that the only reason Broly left Frieza was 'probably' because Broly could sense Frieza had no more stamina to resist. He successfully fought an interplanetary war for over 4 million years, and is one of the most skilled Cybertronian combatants alive. https://www.deviantart.com/varia31/journal/Optimus-Prime-IDW-Comics-Best-Feats-Compilation-699741623?comment=1%3A699741623%3A4492507597, https://character-stats-and-profiles.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TheHadouCyberspaceWitch/Dragon_Ball_Cosmology.